What if I found a box-rehid it well-box in excellent condition and an animal or someone who has good eyesight finds it or even someone follows the same clues but doesn't stamp in and this animal/person ruins the box and I get blamed. No fair.

Mama Bear

Sandy wrote:
I was thinking more about destroyed letterboxes and
was wondering if the website could actually be used as
a solution rather than a cause.

This requires a couple of steps:

1. The website would e-mail the clues to the person
rather than immediately show them. This would require
a valid membership email address.

2. When a person finds a letterbox, they have to rate
the state of the box on the website. This would give
some clue as to the "niceness" of last person that
visited it. This would alter the "letterbox karma" of
the set of users that had the clue for that letterbox
since the previous find. A box in good shape raises
your karma, a box in bad shape lowers your karma.

3. The finder gets their "letterbox karma" raised.

4. If a persons "letterbox karma" drops too low, you
don't email them any more clues.

Perhaps you only count searchs that were done in a
relatively close time range to the time it was found.

Of course, there are many ways to counter this system
(specifically, if you destroy a letterbox and then
rate its condition as great, you are off the hook.)

But, it's just a thought for how to use the
website/internet as a means to protect your
investment, rather than put it at risk.

Any other ideas?

-Z



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Parts of this exist at:

www.lbworld.org

I may get excommunicated by the elders for mentioning this site
(there apparently is some bad blood), but you may find what you seek
there....

Hoping I did not step into something other than trail mud (and just
trying to help),

Lightnin' Bug

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Sandy wrote:
> I was thinking more about destroyed letterboxes and
> was wondering if the website could actually be used as
> a solution rather than a cause.
>
> This requires a couple of steps:
>
> 1. The website would e-mail the clues to the person
> rather than immediately show them. This would require
> a valid membership email address.
>
> 2. When a person finds a letterbox, they have to rate
> the state of the box on the website. This would give
> some clue as to the "niceness" of last person that
> visited it. This would alter the "letterbox karma" of
> the set of users that had the clue for that letterbox
> since the previous find. A box in good shape raises
> your karma, a box in bad shape lowers your karma.
>
> 3. The finder gets their "letterbox karma" raised.
>
> 4. If a persons "letterbox karma" drops too low, you
> don't email them any more clues.
>
> Perhaps you only count searchs that were done in a
> relatively close time range to the time it was found.
>
> Of course, there are many ways to counter this system
> (specifically, if you destroy a letterbox and then
> rate its condition as great, you are off the hook.)
>
> But, it's just a thought for how to use the
> website/internet as a means to protect your
> investment, rather than put it at risk.
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> -Z
>
>
>
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Hmm... What an interesting concept. The biggest problem is that
most people don't take constructive critisism well, and most people
probably don't like the idea of getting 'rated' on how well they had
rehidden the box. And be full of excuses for the problems: The box
wasn't hidden in a good location in the first place, a chipmunk must
have exposed it, the wind exposed it, or whatever.

> But, it's just a thought for how to use the
> website/internet as a means to protect your
> investment, rather than put it at risk.

I'm not sure the karma idea is, in practice, practical, but I like
that way of thinking. Use the internet as a means to protect your
investment, rather than put it at risk. Any solution is bound to be
extremely controversial, however.

Interesting....

-- Ryan

I had a similar but different thought the other day. I thought you could use
reverse psychology and instead of always griping, I wanted to publicly post
and thank the last person in a box if it was well hidden.. the old.. attract
more flies with honey than vinegar type thing. But my husband thought it
would be bad form to publicly post who had been at a box.. So I haven't done
it. But I have started emailing the last person and thanking them if I know
who they are or can figure out how to contact them.

Maiden
-----Original Message-----
From: rscarpen [mailto:letterboxing@atlasquest.com]
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 6:58 PM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Letterbox Karma - was: A Newbies Perspective


Hmm... What an interesting concept. The biggest problem is that
most people don't take constructive critisism well, and most people
probably don't like the idea of getting 'rated' on how well they had
rehidden the box. And be full of excuses for the problems: The box
wasn't hidden in a good location in the first place, a chipmunk must
have exposed it, the wind exposed it, or whatever.

> But, it's just a thought for how to use the
> website/internet as a means to protect your
> investment, rather than put it at risk.

I'm not sure the karma idea is, in practice, practical, but I like
that way of thinking. Use the internet as a means to protect your
investment, rather than put it at risk. Any solution is bound to be
extremely controversial, however.

Interesting....

-- Ryan


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Hmmm,
1. Already in existence.
2. No way. Don't ever rate my box.
3. Why? What does "karma" have to do with this?
4. OK, but not based on karma. How 'bout based on dork level?

> But, it's just a thought for how to use the
> website/internet as a means to protect your
> investment, rather than put it at risk.

Am I in a risk management seminar?

Look, you create art, you put the art out there, you do your best to
protect it, and then everything else happens. That's it.

If you lose your art, you get pissed. You try different things. You
either lose interest, or you continue.

Karma is much bigger than rating someone's box. Please.

Mark
(In a surly mood b/c this list has been beat lately)

actually be used as
> a solution rather than a cause.
>
> This requires a couple of steps:
>
> 1. The website would e-mail the clues to the person
> rather than immediately show them. This would require
> a valid membership email address.
>
> 2. When a person finds a letterbox, they have to rate
> the state of the box on the website. This would give
> some clue as to the "niceness" of last person that
> visited it. This would alter the "letterbox karma" of
> the set of users that had the clue for that letterbox
> since the previous find. A box in good shape raises
> your karma, a box in bad shape lowers your karma.
>
> 3. The finder gets their "letterbox karma" raised.
>
> 4. If a persons "letterbox karma" drops too low, you
> don't email them any more clues.
>
> Perhaps you only count searchs that were done in a
> relatively close time range to the time it was found.
>
> Of course, there are many ways to counter this system
> (specifically, if you destroy a letterbox and then
> rate its condition as great, you are off the hook.)
>
> But, it's just a thought for how to use the
> website/internet as a means to protect your
> investment, rather than put it at risk.
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> -Z
>
>
>
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--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "ndnboxing"
wrote:

> [ ... totally un-helpful response deleted ... ]

> (In a surly mood b/c this list has been beat lately)

Nice attitude. Talk about promoting the community.

Good to see you have a *relaxing* hobby. Nope the next heart attack
isn't too rough on you.

Flame away, I'm off the list.